Wednesday, 25 July 2012

Re: Euthyphro


Plato, through a conversation that Socrates has with Euthyphro demonstrates that morality based on God and his commandments can run into problems beyond unraveling whether God exists or not.  In Euthyphro, Socrates does not take on the task of arguing against the existence of God at all; he poses questions regarding piety and its relation with the nature of God.  In order to respond to Socrates’ challenge, we must first take a look at the challenge that is posed, and then take a deeper look at the nature of God and what it entails.

            The conversation takes place when Euthyphro decides to report his father to the authorities for killing his slave, and Socrates asks him questions about being pious – being moral.  Euthyphro gives him an answer that being pious is about following what Gods love.  Socrates jumps on this after making some clarification to the statement by asking the following: do the gods love holiness because it is holy or is it holy because they love it?  This dichotomy brings about a challenge to how morality would come about with regards to it coming from God.  If we were to pick the former, then it is not God who decides what morality is: God is aware of it and he merely conveys it to us his knowledge.  This would imply that there is something beyond God – holiness that is not from him.  In this case, we would have to ask if there is another god who created this order.  If we choose the latter, then we have to question the definition of what holiness is.  What does it mean to be holy and how can we be certain of the morality that God decided.  In such a case, if God were to command that we ought to torture a baby for fun, it would be true just because of his command.  Holiness and the moral command almost become moot points as it was simply his whim that decided what good and evil is for us.  It simply becomes his preference and there is an element of randomness to what we ought to follow.

            To wrestle with such a question, we need to know more about God.  We shall look at Judeo-Christian God as that is what is familiar to the writer.  Among other natures of God, three of the defining characteristics of God are as follows: He is omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent.  In other words, he is all knowing, all powerful and perfectly good, respectively.  Omniscience can often be read as all seeing as his knowledge is understood as transcending the boundaries of time – he sees all that has been, is and will be.  Does this entail that he obtains knowledge just as he may have obtained the knowledge of holiness, or good and evil?  It can, yes, but this seems inconsistent with how he is portrayed in the bible, or rather how he portrays himself if we want to be technical.  There are some parts of the bible (Christian) that gives some description of God and they describe him as being the beginning and the end.  When God addresses himself, he simply says, “I am”.  He seems to emphasize over and over that there is nothing beyond him.  I would argue that the problem of accepting that “holiness simply comes from his command” derives from the uncertainty of the nature of God.  It seems odd to us to call him “perfectly good” if what is good simply came from whatever he deemed to be good.  It would be completely circular in nature.  However, we have to consider the nature of knowledge and morality themselves.  If we were to consider that there is absolutely nothing outside of God, it would seem that even a notion of knowledge and morality would not exist in such an order.  We must carefully contemplate this absolute void and what it entails.  Something as fundamental as what we consider consciousness must be created.   If we can imagine that these things had to be created, we can see how it is almost irrelevant to talk about morality or knowledge outside of God.  The way we reason and the way we judge what is good and evil along with the concept of morality were all set in order by God.  On top of that, if we consider him being perfectly good by the standard that he set as being “good”, there isn’t anything inconsistent – it almost seems necessary for him to be leading by example.

            One might ask, if this were true, would I torture a baby for fun if God commanded it?  I would ask whether he created a universe and the order of the universe to ensure that torturing a baby for fun is morally permissible.  It is asking whether I would follow the command if God commanded what is clearly evil.  However, this goes against the very nature of God – perfectly good.  The circularity of his nature prevents command of an “evil” thing.  He would only command what he deemed to be good and what he created to be good.  As unimaginable and abhorrent as it is, the only way that God would command torturing a baby for fun is to create a universe, the way of the universe, and the behavioral order of our rationality that would somehow deem such an act to be good.

            It is hard to imagine with accuracy what God is like.  We speak of such a thing as being infinitely powerful but that is not something we can put into our calculation.  We can have a general idea through our imagination what this might be like but I am unsure how I would put into words to describe such a being.  Perhaps that is why he addresses himself with “I am” since there is nothing outside of his existence – a sort of pantheistic notion but only when we think of physical matter.  When we consider our thought processes and intuition being something that was created, it seems to address some issues that Socrates points out in Euthyphro.